we had to get a zoning change the city council. i have been dealing with government regulation since 1973. i expressed that was, and senator, looking at whether or not there is a benefit, cost effective. i don't think the business mandate will work. i think we are imposing -- ferc saying they have to do one thing and epa saying they have to do another. they're trying to answer, which law do i break? i personally think it is excessive. there is no question there's cost attached to every single regulation. i like measuring what that cost is going to be. i don't support tying it up, but basically, federal agencies write a rule in advance or instruction before the rule itself is promulgated and has the impact of the role even before the final rule was done. lots of things i think we can do to decrease the cost of regulation on business. i don't think there's any question it would help us create more jobs. >> sen. fischer. >> i think there are lots of things we can do. my first priority bill the first year the legislature was a bill by